Calculation of excited State frequencies using FERWE and FERDO flags.

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Calculation of excited State frequencies using FERWE and FERDO flags.

#1 Post by aijitha_john » Tue Oct 08, 2024 7:46 am

Dear all,
We can optimize a specific excited state by using the FERWE and FERDO flags. Has anyone used this approach to calculate frequencies using DFPT? I calculated the excited-state frequencies with the FERDO and FERWE flags but encountered negative frequencies (-11 THz). Is this reasonable?


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Re: Calculation of excited State frequencies using FERWE and FERDO flags.

#2 Post by fabien_tran1 » Tue Oct 08, 2024 7:58 am

Hi,

We would need more detail about your calculation. Could you please provide the input files (but not POTCAR), as well as the OUTCAR file, as explained at forum/viewtopic.php?t=17928?


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Re: Calculation of excited State frequencies using FERWE and FERDO flags.

#3 Post by aijitha_john » Tue Oct 08, 2024 1:15 pm

Dear abien_tran1,
Inupt and outcar files are attached.

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Re: Calculation of excited State frequencies using FERWE and FERDO flags.

#4 Post by fabien_tran1 » Tue Oct 08, 2024 2:52 pm

Did you relax the positions of the atoms in the unit cell for this particular excited state? If not, then the forces on the atoms may be non-negligible, leading to negative phonons frequencies.

Besides, note that you are using DFTP, which means that only the phonons at the GAMMA point are calculated.


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Re: Calculation of excited State frequencies using FERWE and FERDO flags.

#5 Post by aijitha_john » Wed Oct 09, 2024 5:23 am

Dear fabien_tran1,
Yes. I optimized the geometry for the excited state.


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Re: Calculation of excited State frequencies using FERWE and FERDO flags.

#6 Post by fabien_tran1 » Wed Oct 09, 2024 3:36 pm

I optimized your structure in the ground state (i.e., FERWE and FERDO are not used), and then applied DFPT. I also obtained negative frequencies and the largest is even 10 times larger in your case. Did you also calculate the phonons frequencies for the ground state and obtained negative frequencies?


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Re: Calculation of excited State frequencies using FERWE and FERDO flags.

#7 Post by aijitha_john » Sun Oct 20, 2024 6:36 am

Yes. I optimize the ground state and I didn't get any negative frequencies.


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Re: Calculation of excited State frequencies using FERWE and FERDO flags.

#8 Post by fabien_tran1 » Sun Oct 20, 2024 3:19 pm

Ok, could you please provide the OUTCAR files of these calculation for the ground state (geometry optimization and frequencies)?


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