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relaxation of structure EDIFFG!!!!!!!

Posted: Mon Dec 11, 2006 3:29 pm
by ouarda
Dear all
if we set EDIFFG to his default value in incar (EDIFF*10). so my question is what the corresponding tolerance for the forces in the unit cell.
thanks for your time

relaxation of structure EDIFFG!!!!!!!

Posted: Tue Dec 12, 2006 1:39 pm
by admin
there is no criterium on the forces at all if EDIFFG>0, only the differences in total energy are checked in that case.

relaxation of structure EDIFFG!!!!!!!

Posted: Tue Dec 12, 2006 2:38 pm
by ouarda
thanks admin for reply. but what is better setting in order to save time computting, EDIFFG>0 or EDIFFG< 0 ?
thanks

relaxation of structure EDIFFG!!!!!!!

Posted: Tue Dec 12, 2006 3:28 pm
by tjf
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relaxation of structure EDIFFG!!!!!!!

Posted: Tue Dec 12, 2006 6:09 pm
by graeme
I would like to add a vote for requiring the use of the force-based criteria (ediff<0) in publications. The energy-based criterion (ediff>0) is not reproducible in the sense that it is based upon the details of the optimizer and the optimizer path (starting configuration). For example, a slow optimizer that takes small steps will converge at a larger force than an aggressive optimizer. The force-based convergence criterion, on the other hand, is well defined, and independent of the optimizer details.

relaxation of structure EDIFFG!!!!!!!

Posted: Thu Dec 14, 2006 9:50 am
by ouarda
thanks for response and discussion, in my opinion I think the setting EDFFG<0 is better when the study concerns the relaxation of system in transition state ( diffusion energy....... etc), i.e for neb calculation. but for other local minumum, its better to set EDFFG>0.
so its still my opinion.
thanks

relaxation of structure EDIFFG!!!!!!!

Posted: Thu Dec 14, 2006 9:55 am
by tjf
Hi ouarda

On what do you base that opinion?